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June 16, 2025

Are CRMs Becoming Just Another Database for AI?

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We explore how ChatGPT’s new integration capabilities are poised to turn CRMs like Salesforce and HubSpot into “just another database.” This episode breaks down what it means when the interaction and analysis layers move outside the system of record—and what that means for GTM teams. The conversation also touches on the hallucination problem in LLMs, how leaders are using AI in real workflows, and why a growing number of founders are embracing an intense, seven-day-a-week work culture.

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Key chapters:

(00:00) Introduction
(01:00) OpenAI Integrations and SaaS Disruption
(08:00) Will CRMs Become Dumb Databases?
(14:00) AI Hallucinations and Architectural Limits
(21:00) Why LLMs Struggle With Truth and Context
(31:00) SaaS Moats and the Future of Vertical AI
(37:00) Founder Work Ethic and the New Hustle Culture
(45:00) The Market is Forcing Founders to Outwork Each Other
(52:00) What’s Defensible in SaaS Anymore?
(57:00) Why GTM Growth Has Gotten So Much Harder
(01:02:00) Shoutouts and Final Reflections

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Are CRMs Becoming Just Another Database for AI?

Listen to E113 episode on Apple, Spotify, and YouTube.

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