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January 29, 2025

Confessions of a First-Time CRO with Catie Ivey of Walnut

Kyle Norton Kyle Norton
Confessions of a First-Time CRO with Catie Ivey of Walnut
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Building foundations in a startup is challenging enough. Doing it as a first-time Chief Revenue Officer adds another layer of complexity. In my recent conversation with Catie Ivey, CRO at Walnut.io, we unpacked crucial lessons from her first year leading revenue that every aspiring or new CRO needs to hear.


Listen to Catie's episode on Apple and Spotify.

The Hidden Foundation Problem
Most first-time revenue leaders understand they'll need to build process and structure. What's less obvious is how many things get built on shaky foundations in high-growth startups.

"One of the things that surprised me was the number of things that had been built on foundations that weren't really there yet," Catie shared. "We'd bought a bunch of tech we weren't using effectively, grown teams without really nailing what 'great' looks like, and had misalignment that I'd taken for granted at larger companies."

Catie has focused on 3 core foundations that new CROs must nail:

1. Operating Rhythms

  • Company operating cadence (town halls, planning cycles)
  • Information sharing frameworks
  • Cross-functional alignment
  • Documentation and playbooks
  • Team meeting structures


2. Go-to-Market Architecture

  • ICP and persona validation
  • Demand gen waterfall mapping
  • Positioning & messaging strategy
  • Sales motion definition (bottoms-up vs. top-down)
  • Use case mapping (Catie mentioned 14 core use cases they had to organize)

3. Customer Journey Design

  • Onboarding experience design
  • Success metrics definition
  • Product feedback loops
  • Support model scaling

The Speed vs. Decision Quality Balance
The most counterintuitive challenge Catie shared was around decision velocity. While speed is crucial in startups, many first-time CROs actually move too slowly in critical areas. "I took way too long to make some decisive decisions about foundational pieces," she reflected. "There were great people and strengths, so I did too much consensus building and it took too long to decide on the basics."

Catie's approach to fixing this:

  • Focus on 2-3 critical priorities vs. trying to solve everything
  • Be purposeful about what NOT to tackle
  • Create clear decision frameworks
  • Run focused offsites with specific outcomes

Leading Through Uncertainty

Perhaps the most profound insight was about embracing uncertainty as a leader. Catie shared: "It's okay not to have the answer. You want to be decisive where you can, but very, very honest or transparent when you don't have the answer."

This connects to what psychologists call the "authenticity paradox,” which is the counterintuitive fact that showing vulnerability and being open about your gaps often increases rather than decreases trust and credibility. By admitting what you don't know, you actually build more trust with your team and partners than pretending to have all the answers.


The Product Partnership
One of the most crucial relationships for a CRO to build is with the product organization. Catie shared several key insights:

1. Create Multiple Feedback Channels

  • Formal product gap tracking in Salesforce
  • Dedicated Slack channels for internal usage feedback
  • Regular cross-functional syncs
  • Real-time information sharing

2. Focus on Your Own Usage
"We weren't using our own product in the ways we were selling it," Catie noted.

Catie endeavored to:

  • Document best practices
  • Build internal use case playbooks
  • Creat feedback loops from internal teams
  • Drive product adoption internally first

3. Build Trust Through Transparency

  • Be honest about product limitations
  • Know where you sit in the competitive landscape
  • Double down on your strengths
  • Create clear escalation paths

The Path Forward
The transition to CRO isn't just about adding scope - it's about fundamentally shifting how you think about and approach revenue leadership. As Catie shared, "You can't do everything and you won't be good at everything."

Success comes from being decisive on critical priorities while staying honest about what you don't know. Focus on building strong foundations, but don't let perfect be the enemy of good - sometimes you need to make calls with imperfect information to keep the business moving forward.


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Kyle Norton
Kyle Norton

As CRO for Owner.com, Kyle leads a team of world class go to market professionals who help independent restaurants grow their direct, online takeout and delivery channels. He currently owns the sales, partnerships, onboarding, success, support, revenue operations and enablement portfolios. Kyle leverages his 15+ years of experience in B2B SaaS sales, go-to-market strategy, and revenue leadership to provide value-added solutions for his clients and drive growth for his company.

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